Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/22/1999 03:05 PM House HES

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HB 113 - POSTSECONDARY EDUC FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0260                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL announced the next order of business as House                                                               
Bill No. 113, "An Act relating to a program of postsecondary                                                                    
education for high school students."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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EDDIE GRASSER, Legislative Assistant to Representative Beverly                                                                  
Masek, came forward to present the committee substitute of HB 113,                                                              
version K.  The first change is on page 1, line 12 where they added                                                             
language consistent with the U.S. codes which deal with the                                                                     
Americans for Disability Act (ADA).  The next change is on page 2,                                                              
line 4, where they replaced the words "eleventh and twelfth grades"                                                             
with "otherwise receiving a secondary school education as described                                                             
in AS 14.40.010(b)(1) or (10) - (12)."  They also added language                                                                
there "who is under 20 years of age" to prevent students remaining                                                              
in the secondary school situation and purposely flunking the                                                                    
standards test or a course required for graduation, so they won't                                                               
ever graduate and can stay in the high school and manage to get a                                                               
college education basically free through the foundation formula.                                                                
The next change is on page 2, lines 16 and 17, which allows the                                                                 
school district to make arrangements with the postsecondary                                                                     
institution to work out agreements where the instructor may                                                                     
actually teach the course in the secondary school, rather than the                                                              
student going to the university.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-42, SIDE A                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE BRICE asked if that section means the secondary                                                                  
students cannot take postsecondary classes if they are offered at                                                               
the high school.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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MR. GRASSER answered that the intent is to allow students to remain                                                             
in the high school, even though the postsecondary school has the                                                                
adjunct professor coming into the high school to teach the course,                                                              
and that is the language that the drafter came up with.  Section 2                                                              
in the original draft that had to do with the credits being given                                                               
was deleted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRASSER told them the next major change is in Sec. 14.30.780,                                                               
the funding section.  This language has shifted the funding to the                                                              
school district, but it also allows the school district to                                                                      
negotiate with the postsecondary institution.  There is a                                                                       
percentage in the foundation formula that is set aside for the                                                                  
school districts for special needs children which would include the                                                             
gifted children.  They figure many of the students taking advantage                                                             
of this program will be the gifted students.  He commented that the                                                             
school districts don't like this funding section, and he recognizes                                                             
that there are problems with the section.  The section with a                                                                   
formula that the DOE would reimburse the district for these                                                                     
students was deleted, and that was why there was an indeterminate                                                               
fiscal note.  There probably still will be an indeterminate fiscal                                                              
note because part of the foundation formula still goes toward these                                                             
special needs students.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0505                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL mentioned that in Valdez the students were                                                                  
bearing some of the cost of the courses, but there was also a                                                                   
scholarship program for those who couldn't pay.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRASSER said the money for the students who couldn't afford to                                                              
pay was coming out of the foundation formula.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL suggested it might be possible for the students                                                             
to pay the tuition.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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MR. GRASSER said that has been part of the discussion, but then                                                                 
that leaves out those who cannot afford to take advantage of the                                                                
program.  Different arrangements already exist throughout the                                                                   
state, and they are trying to allow enough flexibility within the                                                               
district to negotiate arrangements with the university on how it                                                                
would happen.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON asked what the districts don't like in this bill.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0641                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRASSER said the districts didn't like the section on the                                                                   
funding because they have to pay, and there is no provision for the                                                             
state to give money to the districts for the tuition costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRASSER referred them to page 3, line 24 where the language was                                                             
cleaned up on what fees would be paid for attending the                                                                         
postsecondary institution.  On page 3, line 29, it inadvertently                                                                
did not get changed from "nationally" to "regionally" accredited.                                                               
Other than the funding section, if the committee is otherwise                                                                   
comfortable with this bill, he advised them that the sponsor would                                                              
like to see it moved on to the Finance Committee and try to work                                                                
out the funding arrangement there.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0776                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON made a motion to amend CSHB 113 on page 3, line                                                               
29 from "nationally" to "regionally."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL asked whether there was any objection.  There                                                               
being none, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE suggested that there could be clearer language                                                             
on page 2, lines 15, 16 and 17, and they could deal with it some                                                                
place else.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0854                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRASSER understood his concern and agreed they both had the                                                                 
same intent there.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0880                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LARRY WIGET, Executive Director, Public Affairs, Anchorage School                                                               
District, came forward to testify and said he hasn't had a chance                                                               
to look at this bill, but he would send it back to his school board                                                             
to see if they have any concerns about the funding level or Section                                                             
2(b).                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON told Mr. Wiget if they do have concerns after                                                                 
looking at HB 113, he will move to rescind their action and change                                                              
them on Tuesday, if they pass this bill out today.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0948                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON made a motion to move CSHB 113, 1-LSO461\K, Ford,                                                             
4/22/99, as amended, out of committee with individual                                                                           
recommendations and indeterminate fiscal note.  There being no                                                                  
objection, CSHB 113(HES) moved from the House Health, Education and                                                             
Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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